Business Bites Episode 98: How Introverts Can Grow Their Business

How Introverts Can Grow Their Business

Episode 98 on the Business Bites Podcast

The Gist Of This Episode: Are you an introvert trying to grow a business and feel like you are struggling? In this episode, Rachel sits down with Lindsay Maloney from Book Your Dream Clients Podcast to give you some tips to help you. Don’t worry extroverts; you weren’t left out! These tips can apply to you as well. 

 

What you will learn:

  • What the busyness trap is and what it’s telling you
  • Why introverts stay in their comfort zones and how to push past that
  • Why it’s important to be yourself and not let labels define you
  • How to turn weaknesses into strengths
  • How being self-aware can help you stay replenished
  • and more!

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Rachel Brenke: Hey guys, welcome to episode 98 of The Business Bites Podcast. My name’s Rachel Brenke, and today, I’m joined by Lindsay Maloney. I am thrilled and stoked to have her. This is a … She comes from a place that not a lot of other guests have, and so I think she’s going to bring some really unique, awesome insights into how introverts can grow their business.

A little bio on her. She is a rapid transformational therapy practitioner. I’ll let her explain that here in a little bit. She’s a self-made business and success coach who specializes in teaching women how to start and scale their dream coaching businesses with simplicity and confidence.

She believes that you guys should always choose to use your intuition to guide you as you grow your business. With her step-by-step, intuitive and creative guidance, you’re going to feel inspired to take her tips into action, push your business forward, and work with your dream clients. That’s my goal, too.

She works with women who want to get unstuck and structure their brilliance into coaching businesses that are sustainable and financially exhilarating. I love that. And last but not least, she is the creator of Standout Coaching Academy and is the host of Book Your Dream Clients podcast.

You guys can find all of the links and everything for Lindsay, it’s lindsaymaloney.com, or else you can head over to rachelbrenke.com/epi98. Lindsay, I’m excited. Thanks for coming on.

Lindsay Maloney: Yes, Rachel, thank you so much for having me. I’ve been really excited to be here.

Rachel Brenke: Your bio and this subject matter is wonderful. My whole life, I’ve kind of identified as an extrovert, but as I get older, I feel like I’ve become more of an introvert. So this is perfect for those that may feel like they’re either transitioning into introvertism, I guess, if you will.

Lindsay Maloney: I love that, and I think I could tell that you are an extrovert right away, the first time I ever heard you. So, I was right.

Rachel Brenke: Well, maybe I’m more of just a homebody extrovert now. As I get older, I just want no people by the evening.

Lindsay Maloney: Oh, yes.

Rachel Brenke: I’m funny. All right, so let’s dig into how introverts can grow their business. Before though we get into the meat of it, I want to know a little bit about your background, very specifically on what a rapid transformational therapy practitioner is and how you got to where you are now.

Lindsay Maloney: Oh, okay. I’m so excited to share all of this with you in a majorly condensed form, because it’s a long journey. I’ve been doing this for nine years. I started my … I live in a really small town. It has 800 people. Sometimes we tap out at 900 when things get really exciting, but we’re very small. I grew up here.

I’m married, I have three kids. I work full time from home and I have my own business. So I’ve created a coaching business from the idea that I want to be more than just a full time employee. I want to be more than a mom, and I’m just going to go with wherever this journey takes me.

So over nine years, I’ve transitioned into being this business and success coach, and a rapid transformational therapy practitioner. It’s such a mouthful, I know, but I decided that, nine years ago, I had this pull, this call to do more, and I didn’t know where it was going to take me, so I just started, as most entrepreneurs seem to start, with a health coaching business.

I think that’s our gateway into entrepreneurialism, is start a health coaching business. And I did that for about four years, and had a couple more babies, and then I decided, you know what, I really like the business side of it. I’m dropping the health coaching aspect, and I’m just going to go with the flow.

And as we know, as business owners, especially online business owners, the mindset is so very important. And I was just noticing so many patterns with my students and clients that they had everything. The vanity numbers, the websites, they got it, but there’s something that’s holding them back. They just can’t seem to get those clients. There’s something blocking them.

And I just, I knew I needed to find a tool to help them do that, because I just want to help. I want to help my girls do everything. I know they’re capable of working with clients and having these amazing coaching businesses. So I became an RTT practitioner, which means that I basically use this tool, and it’s hypnosis.

And if you would ask me a year ago and said, “Hey, Lindsay, are you going to be hypnotizing people to see if they can break through anything in their business?” I would have said, “Excuse me, what?” No, but that’s what I do. I actually help people while they’re under hypnosis. We do this online, we do this in person, we go under hypnosis and we try and figure out.

Sometimes clients will come to me because they have a money block. They feel like they just hit a wall and they can’t get past it. So we will do something like that. And basically, if you’ve ever meditated or anything like that, it’s like you’re meditating, but it’s conversational. So it’s not like you see on TV, or what you’re thinking. It’s nothing weird.

You’re just in a highly meditative state. You’re going into your mind, you’re letting your subconscious speak for you for once, you’re listening for once. Why is this money block coming up? How can we get rid of it, and how can we heal it? And I’ve seen huge transformations with my clients and students who have decided that they’re ready for this.

And yeah, I’ve been doing this for about six months now, the RTT part of it, and I studied so much for it, and it’s such a huge accomplishment for me, because I’ve seen transformations with myself. So now it’s such a blessing to pass it through other people.

Rachel Brenke: I love it. I love it. So, let’s go back a little bit, though. If you could go back to when you first got into the coaching stuff, I know you mentioned a bit about going from health coaching into kind of just wherever you’re led to go from there. If you could go back to any time within that, what would you tell yourself, or what is something that you would change?

Lindsay Maloney: Something that I would change. If I could just walk up to myself, I can see myself working in my living room, because I had a toddler crawling all around the house. I always had to move offices in my house, and I was always working.

And I would just walk up to myself, and I would shut the computer off and say, “You don’t need to do this. This is not pushing you forward. By the way, this is not going to get you anywhere. You’re just sitting here because you want to be busy, and you want to make this look like this is going to do something.”

And that makes me sad to say that, but it’s a hard lesson that I had to learn. I think a lot of entrepreneurs are doing that. They’re doing all this busy work, because they feel like if they work harder, something will happen, and it’s just the complete opposite.

Rachel Brenke: I noticed for myself that I will fall into this busyness. Not business, but the busyness trap, because if I get so overwhelmed with so much that I need to do, then I am like, “Huh, guess I should overhaul the website, because then I’ll feel productive, even though I don’t need to do it.” That just happened in the last week.

But sometimes, so for me, I know that when I fall into the trap and I realize that I’m doing busy work like that, stuff that my fingers don’t necessarily need to do or doesn’t need done, I check myself. I have to step back and go, “What is it about the list that I have to do in the tasks? Why am I polarized from it right now? Why am I running away from it?” So that’s my own self check.

Lindsay Maloney: Oh, totally. I think it’s about being mindful of what you’re doing. Because I’ll do the same thing. That’s a trigger for me, the whole website thing. If I notice that I’m playing in the back end, I have to say, “Lindsay, does this really need to be done right now? Because what are you putting off?”

And sometimes, even my husband will ask me that, because all of a sudden, I’ll start this random project at home, and he’ll say, “What are you supposed to be doing right now in your business that you’re like, why are you cleaning out the cupboards? Why are you organizing Christmas things in July?” Because I’m putting something off.

So it’s the same thing. We’re our own bosses, but somehow we assign ourselves too much, or really random things that aren’t going to help our business. And being mindful is so important, because we have a team of people working with us. We have ourselves, we have clients and students. We need to be operating at a higher level than that.

Rachel Brenke: And as you’re talking, I just was thinking about how my team will say, they’ll come up to me and go, “Did you get to work out today?” And I’ll go, “No, actually, I didn’t.” They’re like, “We can tell,” just because I’m a bit more like, “Oh, we need to do this. Why was this folded this way?”

Not like an aggressive, rude boss, but I’m just nitpicking over the little details that normally, I’m go with the flow, don’t really care. And yeah, so, for me, and I wanted … Lindsay, I’m so glad that we’re talking about this before we move into the topic, just to give a reminder to everyone listening that Lindsay and I are about a decade plus into this combined, right?

You’re nine years, and I’m coming up with 15 years, so we’ve got decades of experience, but here we are even sharing with you that we still have to do self checks on ourself. I think the busyness aspect that you were referring to in the beginning, sometimes it’s because entrepreneurs don’t know which direction to go, whereas now we’re this far along, we know where we need to go, we know how much work is going to be made to go into it, so sometimes we avoid that.

Do you think, and let me ask you this, this really wasn’t part of the topic for today, but I’m interested to know with your business and the way that you practice and help entrepreneurs, is do you think that we become more or less purposeful the further along that we get?

I’m thinking of it from the standpoint that, in the beginning, you’re really driven by fear, the fear of failing, or not knowing if you’re going to make it. Once you start quote unquote, “Making it,” and that fear kind of subsides, I don’t know. Is that much of a driver anymore? Are we less or more purposeful in our business?

Lindsay Maloney: I feel that we’re more purposeful, because we have a clearer vision, then. It’s not so blurred and shaky and random, I think. I think we’re more purposeful. Do you agree?

Rachel Brenke: Yeah. I guess I was thinking, because it’s so easy for us to fall into this busy aspect. Are we really … Does that mean that we’re less purposeful? No, it just means we’re human. We have to remind ourselves. Well, good. All right. So let’s move into the topic here.

These two things that we’ve talked about so far, about being purposeful, and the mindset and everything, I think it is even more important when it comes to introverts and how they can grow their business. So I want to hear some of your top tips of how you work with introverts so that they …

Because I feel like, maybe because I’m an extrovert, I’m saying this, I feel like sometimes business and entrepreneurship’s easier for extroverts than it is introverts. I really want to reach out and grab those introverts and help them either feel empowered, well, I want them to feel empowered, but also, to have action steps that they can take going forward to grow.

Lindsay Maloney: Yeah, definitely. This is a really popular topic, and I feel I am the definition of an introvert, and I really want to empower, like you said, the introverts to do this, because this space that we’re in, online entrepreneurism, is perfect for introverts. Because introverts are operating at their best when they’re comfortable.

That’s why introverts tend to stay in their comfort zones, and it’s really hard to pull them out. So for me, I just want to stay home forever, unless I can go somewhere like … I just would rather stay home. I’m a huge homebody. But the topic of working from home, I worked from home for my corporate job for almost 15 years, so I feel like I was just really born at the exact time that I was supposed to be born, because I don’t think I can highly function outside of a busy place or an office or whatever.

I did that. I’d rather be home. But when there is a person who has an idea for an online business, and they see all these people, let’s say, for example, for you, Rachel, they see you, they can tell that you have a lot of energy, and they’re like, “Oh my gosh, I don’t have that. I can’t go online and do this.” And that’s intimidating for them. So they stay hidden.

But yet, they have this dream that not everyone has. Not everyone wants to have this online business. It’s not like this is common, as much as it might feel. It’s really important to acknowledge that dream that you have, that person that you look up to, and start walking towards her, in a sense, and and start walking that road. And the reason why introverts work so well is, again, because they’re able to work from home, and they’re able to do all the things on their own terms.

One thing that I like to say is introverts have to take and be very conscious of what they do, and I think they already are, because they already know they’re an introvert. Because I remember the first time I ever heard that word. I was like, “Wow, that’s me, 100%.” I finally felt like I wasn’t weird, or I wasn’t sociable, or I wasn’t …

My dad is such a social person, and he’d always say, “You need to get out of the house and go meet people.” I’m like, “Okay, first of all, where am I going to go? The post office? We live in this small town.” But I never felt connected with him in that way, and I always felt like I was doing something wrong.

And then when I finally realized, no, that’s just who I am, I was like, “Okay, cool. I’m going to make this work for me.” And I did. So I have something that I can do from home that makes me feel like I’m contributing on with a higher purpose, that I’m doing good for the world. I’m creating a ripple effect and helping other women.

So if you feel like there’s something out there for you, go do it. Go follow it, go see where it goes. But it’s really important to be mindful of how you do it.

Rachel Brenke: And I think it’s interesting. I love the encouragement for introverts, because, as an extrovert, I’ve envied introverts. I always felt like they’d come across as very smart and pensive and calculated and strategic, and with myself, being an extrovert, the other part of that is also being, throw caution to the wind. I am more of a risk taker, and I feel like both have their place in entrepreneurship.

But if I sit back and look at some of the largest names and faces that are educators, that are guiding others, I would bet the majority of them are actually introverts at heart. And so, for me, I hope that encourages those that are listening. And I don’t think it’s necessarily right or wrong, whichever one you are. What you are getting at, Lindsay, is there is a place.

As long as you have the mission and a calling and a decision to do something, there is a place. One of the things I talk about a lot on The Business Bites Podcast, the most popular episode ever is episode 12, and it’s called The Magic of a Client Avatar. But really, what it digs into is the psychology of who you’re going to attract. Who are you talking to? What is your unique selling proposition?

And I think there’s great power, introverts listening to this, in knowing that you can put your introversion, and your characteristics, into your entrepreneurship, whether it’s online, in person, and if you want to attract other introverts, you can. I feel, and I feel kind of sad as an extrovert saying this, that I think … I’m sorry. Introverts often feel suffocated or brushed aside, or into the shadows, I guess is a better way to visualize it.

Because, in this online social media sphere that we have with Instagram influencers and YouTube and all of that, I think it’s easier for extroverts to shine. But shining can only go so far. You still have to back that up with knowledge and experience and hard work. I don’t really know where I’m going with that.

I guess just to be an encouragement and build on what you said, that if you have a plan, introvert, I think introverts are going to get it done better than extroverts. I feel like extroverts may have a shorter lifespan than introverts do. I don’t know. I just think longevity in planning and strategy for introverts.

Lindsay Maloney: Well, yeah, that’s really an important way to look at it. I think everyone has to realize that who they are is just fine, no matter what it is. Right? We’re all good. And that’s why it’s so important to be yourself online. It doesn’t … I can’t pretend to be Rachel, and Rachel can’t pretend to be me, because it’s not going to work.

We’re not going to attract our dream clients that way, because something’s going to feel off. So a lot of times, I will bring in a really big extrovert that wants to work with me because they kind of need that balance. They need somebody to take them down a notch and kind of balance it out a little bit. And that happens a lot.

Or I’ll attract high introverts just like me, that they finally feel like somebody gets them. And the only reason that happens is because I’m open with who I am and how I operate and how I can function. And if I wasn’t honest about that, I wouldn’t have those amazing people in my life.

Rachel Brenke: So, let’s kind of hone in on, what do you think are some of the weaknesses that come along with being an introvert, and maybe some tips of how to help the introverts listening turn those to strengths or to minimize their impact on their business?

Lindsay Maloney: Yes. I think identifying with something and labeling yourself is one thing, and living by it is another. So if you use everything, well, I’m an introvert, and I’m an extrovert, or I’m this and that, you’re using it as a blueprint for how you’re going to operate your day. It’s just, with anything, whatever you say becomes reality.

So I don’t wake up in the morning and think, “I’m such an introvert today, [inaudible 00:18:13].” I don’t think about that at all, unless I go on a podcast interview. I don’t think about it. I just do what is best for me. I don’t do what is advised by maybe a coach, or a program that I’m in. I always tap into what’s going to work best for me, and how it’s going to make me feel good.

Is this going to make my business feel easy and fun? If it’s not, then I’m not going to do it. But it’s really important to not just say, just identify with something, even with illnesses, whatever. Don’t identify with anything, just be you, and then do whatever works best for you. So if you’re feeling like you’re off in your business, take note of what you’re doing.

Write down everything that you do every day, and then maybe cross out the things that don’t serve you. Do you need to do them at all, or can you have somebody help you do them? Or how can you make it easy? Everything that feels like it’s kind of off or unaligned, I always say, how can I make this easier for me? And then I’ll either make it easier for me, or I’ll have somebody else do it, or I’ll have somebody help me with it.

Because this is my business. I created it. Nobody said, “Lindsay, you need to create your online business right now.” This is me. So me being the best boss to myself, no matter if I’m an introvert or an extrovert, or whatever it is, that’s what’s going to make my business last. That’s why I’ve had a business for nine years, and that’s why you’ve had a business for 15 plus years. Because we’re okay with who we are.

Rachel Brenke: So, what I want to ask you, and we can always edit this out if it’s too much, being an introvert, and this is the naive extrovert in me speaking, do you automatically become anxiety ridden or stressed out when you have to come on podcasts or talk in front of people, or do you not really think that that aligns with introvertism?

Lindsay Maloney: I think a lot of introverts will identify with anxiety. I don’t get nervous to do anything that has to do with my business. I’m just so tapped into my business. I don’t, I never get nervous.

Rachel Brenke: Well, there goes my follow up question.

Lindsay Maloney: And I’ll throw the extrovert off. No, I just, I don’t get nervous at all. So, let’s hear your follow up question.

Rachel Brenke: Well, the question was going to be, how would you prepare for today’s podcast? So what are some tips for introverts out there? Because I’ve heard this for my clients, as well, who are very introverted, and they want to do speaking engagements. They want to go on podcasts, but they become a nervous wreck about it.

And extroverts also have public speaking anxiety. But I’ve seen this in a lot of introverts. What tips would you give them to … You can’t just delegate that. I guess you could in content creation, but if you’re trying to put yourself out there and make the business be about you, your face and your voice has to show up. So how do you recommend introverts to work through that anxiety or apprehension of being in the public light?

Lindsay Maloney: Yeah, so sometimes I’ll notice that my mind isn’t nervous, but I notice my body is a little bit nervous. I’ll notice I’m breathing a little bit shallower, or I’m walking around the house, trying to find something to do, and I’m just kind of all over the place. And then I really have to just stop myself and just do some breathing exercises.

Breathing is really important. But then, doing three big deep inhales and exhales before I do something, even when I came on with you, I always do that, because that kind of helps my body calm down a little bit. Even though I didn’t even realize my body might’ve been in a little bit elevated. So I’ll do that. And then I do simple things, like I have essential oils that help me calm down, even though I don’t feel that way. I know that my body might need it.

So I always have that, and I think it’s just important to really structure your day so you know how much you can handle. I’m not going to do a bunch of podcast interviews in one day, because I would deplete my energy. Or I’m not going to have a bunch of client calls or student work, because I don’t have … It takes a lot of energy to deal with other clients and students.

So I’m very mindful of how much I put myself out there, and I always am very careful with my hours. Setting your hours, how much can you take on every single day, every single week? Just really being super careful of how much energy you’re going to be expending, because every time you expend it, you need to replace it.

So have a method to replace it as well is super important. And that, for me, is having quiet time. With three kids, sometimes it’s a little bit hard. That’s why I wake up really early in the morning, so I can have my quiet time. That is how I fill my cup. And I think a lot of introverts, too, like their morning quiet time. So if you’re not a morning person, maybe you can have some quiet time at night, or maybe try and have some quiet time in the morning.

Rachel Brenke: I’m not a morning person either, but I found that if I don’t have that get up, have coffee quiet time, and then work out time in the morning the best I can and getting kids to school and everything, but if I don’t have that, I am agitated, or antsy, I guess is the better word, for the rest of the day.

So for me, even not being a morning person, because I know, just by sheer entrepreneurship life, and mom life, and just life in general, by the end of the day, like you said, the cup’s overflowing and full, and there’s no space for anything else. And then it becomes a stress trying to figure out when I’m going to have quiet time.

Lindsay Maloney: [crosstalk 00:23:51], because then you don’t feel like you’re rushing the kids to bed. There’s nothing worse than rushing your kids to bed. I always feel like such a cranky mom if I’m rushing them to bed, and I don’t want to do that. So that’s why I am, again, I wake up before the sun rises every single day.

But that’s when my body wants me to, and so I don’t care if it’s the weekend, it’s five, I’m up, because that’s when I feel like I can be my best with my business, myself. And then when everyone starts to come around with my business and work and kids, then I’m good. My cup’s full. I’m good.

Rachel Brenke: I want to switch gears just a tad bit. Let’s talk a tiny bit about marketing. I particularly mentioned a lot about business referral relationships, you guys want to check out episode 18. Again, all this is going to be linked. Rachelbrenke.com/epi98. All the Lindsay stuff, and also related episodes, will be linked there, too.

But I talk a lot about business referral relationships, and how those are gold, how that really can bring you more customers or clients, whatever type of business it is. What would you recommend, Lindsay, for introverts? Do you recommend pairing up with other introverts, or doing a mixture of extroverts, or is that not even something to take into consideration?

Lindsay Maloney: Well, I love that. I love that idea, and I feel like that can be overwhelming for some introverts to have to do all of that. I have extrovert students who have referred me a lot of them. So I love them for that. And I think the power of word of mouth is so great, but sometimes, it’s hard to go out there and say, “Hey guys, can you tell everyone about my business?”

And I know even for introverts, it’s really hard for them to even ask for a testimonial, but it’s really important to do what feels aligned for you. So whether it’s collaborating with a blog post, those are probably the easiest for introverts, blog posts, or doing a live with somebody in their Facebook group, kind of in a more closed community, that feels really good.

But you have to take in what works best for you. If somebody asks you to do something with them, and it doesn’t feel fun or easy, or if it starts to just bring up anxious feelings, then you don’t have to do it. You don’t have to do anything. Just do what feels right for you, so you’re excited to sit down in front of your computer, and if you start to feel that creeping feeling of I don’t want to do this, I’m dreading this, it’s not aligned for you. And it’s just a huge sign that you don’t need to do it.

Rachel Brenke: Interesting. So let me one last question, and I’ll let you go, because we’re trying to keep this as quick a bite as possible, but I love the topic. In the context you’re talking about being uncomfortable, at what point should introverts start pushing the envelope of comfortability?

People say, “Get comfortable with being uncomfortable,” and that kind of stuff. That’s the, “Progress is on the other side of fear,” or any of those little quotes. At what point, and I totally butchered them by the way, but at what point should … Oh my God, introverts, get … I’m making up all sorts of words on this episode. The transcriptionist is going to be like, highlight, highlight, not a word.

What’s my question? Oh, so you’re talking about if they’re uncomfortable and dreading doing, let’s say, a webinar, or getting onto a podcast. At what point do you encourage an introvert to push past that uncomfortable feeling? Or should they just simply stay away from that?

Lindsay Maloney: Well, I think there are things you need to do in your business to push it forward. So whether I think a webinar is way more scarier than we make it seem, and if I remember my first webinar, I had one person, and I was scared out of my mind, and I forgot to hit the record button, but you know what? I lived.

But there is just certain things that you … Like you said, everyone says, “Get comfortable with getting uncomfortable.” And I think that’s true to a point. I’m not going to go and have a bunch of speaking engagements next month, because that might throw me off a little bit. And then your body could even respond by getting sick, or your body’s just going to try and protect you as much as it can.

So I think going slow. You’re not going to move forward in your business if you don’t move forward literally. So you have to take steps, whether they’re small or big. You have to do something. Action is what’s going to push you forward. So whether it’s writing a blog post, doing a webinar, going live, speaking, podcasting, whatever it is, just take small bites. There’s no rush.

And I think the most important part is we need just to apply patience. It’s going to take maybe a little bit longer for introverts to get through all of those steps. But that’s okay. We have to be okay with that. The trust and the patience has to be infused into everything that we do.

Rachel Brenke: I agree. I love that. Lindsay, this has been wonderful. Do you have any last tips you want to leave them with? Let them know you have an entire freebie vault, so feel free to share about that as well, because I want the introverts, definitely, to dig into your resources.

Lindsay Maloney: Yeah, absolutely. If you guys have any questions about anything that I do, or that I said, you can totally reach out to me. I hang out a lot on Instagram. You can send me a DM, or you can find me on Facebook. You can join our free community, dreamclientcommunity.com, or just go play in the freebie vault and download all the things for you to help build your business.

Rachel Brenke: That’s awesome. Well, guys, you can check out all of the show notes, links of Lindsay’s stuff, at rachelbrenke.com/epi98. Don’t forget, we’re coming up on the hundredth episode, so we’re going to be doing some fun stuff in The Business Bites group on Facebook, so be sure to jump into there, get involved in the discussion, and I will see you guys on the other side.

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Lindsay Maloney is a Rapid Transformational Therapy Practitioner and a self-made business and success coach who specializes in teaching women how to start and scale their dream coaching businesses with simplicity and confidence. She believes that you should always choose to use your intuition to guide you as you grow your business. With her step by step, intuitive, and creative guidance you’ll feel inspired to take her tips into action, push your business forward, and work with your dream clients. Lindsay works with women who want to get unstuck and structure their brilliance into a coaching business that’s sustainable and financially exhilarating. She is also the creator of Stand Out Coaching Academy and is the host of the Book Your Dream Clients podcast.

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Rachel Brenke is a lawyer, author and business consultant. She is currently helping professionals all over the world initiate, strategize and implement strategic business and marketing plans through various mediums of consulting resources and legal direction.

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