Rachel Brenke:
Hey guys, welcome to another week of the Business Bites Podcast. I am your host Rachel Brenke and this is episode 129. And I am so excited, and I feel like I say that every week, but I am because I love sharing this information and I especially love the topic we’re going to talk about today because it is so, so relevant to all this going on with schools and COVID, et cetera. But also because the guest who’s coming on is one of my favorites to follow on social media. Her personality just comes out. But she’s also coming on to help us learn how to run a business while having to homeschool your kids, whether by choice or forced because kids are doing online schooling or whatever because of COVID.

So, Erika, thank you for coming on.

Erika:
Thank you so much for having me, Rachel.

Rachel Brenke:
I’m so glad that we finally connected to get to do this and it’s such great timing because we’re staring down the finish line of summer into school. But before we get into the tips of homeschooling or helping to facilitate online schooling while running a business, can you just give me a little insight into how you got into entrepreneurship and how you got here?

Erika:
Yeah, so it’s a weird tale. Like a lot of entrepreneurs, I didn’t really set out to do that. My initial plan was I was going to be a high school English teacher and I did teach for a little bit and technically I do still teach now. It’s just very different. It’s two adults and it’s not in a classroom. So, I started teaching and then I got married to someone in the military and the military moved us and as you know, you end up being at the whim of other people’s plans and situations that you find yourself in.

And then I had my son Jack. So I found out I was pregnant shortly after we moved just outside of Seattle. And I couldn’t teach. Since we moved States, I couldn’t teach. And then I was pregnant and the whole thing. And when I went back to work full time, when he was a year old, I thought I want to do something that really pays me well, if I’m going to put him in daycare. While I was pregnant, I was working at a bank. Just those random things that you do to make ends meet.

And so I knew I was good at selling and dealing with people and so I ended up working for Calvin Klein as a store manager and I was leading this huge team and a very successful store and I loved it and then the military moved us again. And by then my son Jack was four and I was like, you know what? I don’t want that world of retail management anymore. The hours are terrible. My husband’s now on a military swing shift type schedule rotating shift work. And I was just like, I need to be more present.

So, I ended up working for an organic vegetable farm and then …

Rachel Brenke:
I didn’t know this.

Erika:
Yes. Not a rinky dink little one, it was a pretty big one. But I just was like, “Oh, I’m just going to sell vegetables for them at the farmer’s market a couple of days a week.” Because again, I love people. I love selling. This will be great.

And so then because I had my retail experience, my boss, the owner of the farm, he was really open to my suggestions. So it turns out that my suggestions were good and helped him make a ton of money. So he was like, “Hey, do you want to be the manager of all of our market stuff?”

And I said sure. So I ended up doing that for many years, then randomly had a very successful, direct sales business and pretty much at the end of 2016, I was feeling a little bit of burnout. And it was ready to jump into a new version of entrepreneurship. I really wanted something that could be mobile, that could move with me, that I could do from anywhere in the world, and I wouldn’t have to be showing up at people’s houses every weekend to sell something, right?

So I started to get curious and I thought, “I’m really good at teaching people how to run strong businesses and how to sell and how to market and do people pay people for this?” And turns out they do. So, I just got really curious and I started researching and in 2017, I closed down my successful business that I had been running for years and I loved and I took a huge leap of faith into the world of business consulting and business coaching. And I’m so glad I did because this is exactly … I see how all the pieces now fit together looking back in reverse and I can see that all paths led here and this is totally what I’m meant to be doing.

Rachel Brenke:
I love that beat. And this is why I asked this question. This is one of the standard ones that all the guests get asked for the most part, because I think entrepreneurship, it is really important to know that it’s okay to evolve and grow. And you had something successful, but you wanted something else and took that leap of faith. And I think that is extremely important lesson to take away from this.

And even with that, what we’re going to talk about today, you guys are going to be able to use those tips and tricks that Erika’s going to give to translate to if you develop another business, I have multiple businesses going, or jumping from one to another. And also, FYI, I’m going to be linking all of Erika’s stuff on the show notes, like I normally do. Rachelbrenke.com/epi129. But what is really specific about me wanting you guys to go to that page is I am going to link her weekly business podcasts, Sell It Sister, and also to her No Sleaze Sales Method that you can get for free. All that’s going to be on there. That is one of the things besides her awesome personality that attracted me and I definitely think she’s someone we’ll have to have come back later on to talk about No Sleaze Selling, but until then check out the resources there. You guys can dive in. So Erika, before we move into the content, what is one lesson that you’ve learned during entrepreneurship that you wish you had known from the very beginning?

Erika:
Yeah, I feel like I would say don’t discount the value that you bring to your clients that comes from your lived experience. So, when I shifted from running all of these very traditional more in person, face to face businesses to the online world, I know that I felt for a long time like, “Well, sure I have all this business experience and I have this track record. But I haven’t been online as long. I haven’t been coaching as long.”

And I really didn’t give myself enough credit for the value that I could bring to potential clients of mine. So yeah, I think that … I’m coming up on three years in my new business, in my consulting practice. And I feel like it’s really been in the last six months, I finally really felt this level of self-trust around, “You know what? Just because my path looks different than other people’s paths in the online entrepreneurial space doesn’t mean that I am not incredibly amazing to my clients and give them really, really, really good strategy that actually turns into results.” And to not … I don’t know. I think I was putting myself in boxes that I didn’t need to be.

Rachel Brenke:
I get that. I can see that. I have often talked about this online, of share your story even if you think you don’t have one. And a couple of weeks ago, I put out an episode, episode 127, and it’s talking about two things you can do to build your confidence. But one of those is showing up in your story. When we hear stories and try to sell or to connect and all of that, I feel like there’s this idea that it has to be so extreme. But your story could be what connects with someone else exact equivalent story or what they need to hear.

Me having cancer may not necessarily connect with someone who’s never had cancer. That’s okay. We’re not for each other. You know what I mean? They can be in different levels of extremes. Everyone’s life circumstances are different. So share your story because it is going to connect and in the end, you’ll be able to serve them. But it’s hard to serve and I think that’s … We’re going a little go a little off track here. We’ll get more into the No Sleaze Selling in another episode in the future. But I definitely think serving over selling and, to me, you really have to use you and your story to accomplish that. To connect with whoever it is you’re trying to serve.

Erika:
Yeah. And I think it’s really this thing of I kept thinking for so long that in order for me to be able to help certain people that I would have had to be in their exact shoes. So for instance, that I wouldn’t be able to coach someone who had made 10 times the amount of money I’d ever made in a business. And so I just felt like, “Oh, I’m so much less than those people.” But then now as I’ve gotten to know more entrepreneurs and work with different people and have friends of mine who are multimillionaires in the online world and realize, “Oh yeah, I actually still have nuggets of wisdom and some ideas that benefit them.” And I need to stop pretending just because they are at a different financial level or something that they have it all figured out, or that there’s nothing left for me to bring to that table.

And almost like, “Oh, I’m not qualified.” Which I actually feel is super relevant in the world of homeschooling too. It’s just downplaying this idea and assuming we aren’t qualified to do this next thing that we feel called to do.

Rachel Brenke:
The flip side of that is I’ve been doing this for 15 years and it actually wasn’t until this year that I was feeling a resistance of, “Well, I don’t need to learn to do X, Y, and Z because I’ve already accomplished X.” Well, I finally removed that resistance, looked to other people that were at different levels, different stories, and I learned nuggets from them. So, there is a lot of truth to that and it is completely revolutionizing and improving how I’ve been doing things.

So, I guess I just share the other side of it. When you’ve been doing it for so long, you feel like, “Well, my is the right way.” And get complacent and forget about improvement and you don’t need to look up, you can look around you to other individuals. And what is it specifically you can learn from them? For you, that’s, like I said, besides your personality and how you show up on social media, the content of selling and that story interacting is nuggets that I take away, even though I may have been, a couple months ago, like, “Oh, I don’t really need to learn much more on that. I got this down.”

No, you don’t. So, it doesn’t matter where you’re at, which I also think, good segue into homeschooling, is … I feel like I know I’m not equipped to do homeschooling, but I feel like I am equipped to run a business while attempting homeschooling, because we don’t really have a choice with COVID. So I lay myself before you, Erika. What tips can you give? Because we’re coming up with this in a couple of weeks. How can I keep my businesses going and engaging with my audience and my teams, but still give my kids the quality help that they need?

Erika:
Yeah. So it’s kind of funny. Much like I never anticipated being an entrepreneur, I never anticipated being a homeschooler. So like I said, I went to school to teach, but also, just in case anyone’s like, “Oh, then that means you’ve got it in the bag.” Like, no, no, no. It’s always different when it’s your own kid. And also young kids freak me out. My wheelhouse is teenagers.

And so I had to … I don’t love teaching the basics. I don’t even love teaching my son how to tie his shoe laces. So, I want to talk to people about literature and higher level stuff. And so it wasn’t like I was just a shoe-in for this. So, my son went to kindergarten and first grade and I was just like, “You know what? I don’t think that he has like the temperament for how school is now.”

And so can I get curious and see, is there a different way that we can do this? And so that was nine years ago, almost 10 years ago, that we started our homeschooling journey and he’s now 15. And I would say that things I learned. So basically through all of that, so when we started, I was managing the farm. So even though it wasn’t my business, I played a huge role in the success of that business and I had a lot of work I had to do for that role. And this was also, my husband was still active duty at the time. So, his schedule was nuts. So, I was doing a lot of parenting, a lot of teaching, and a lot of working.

And then when I had my direct sales business and then again, my consulting business. So the whole time I’ve been homeschooling, I’ve also been running businesses. And really what I have learned is that you have to be very realistic with yourself.

So, those days, especially now that he’s gotten older and he’s more independent and he wakes up at noon, I have a lot more just open, spacious time where I don’t necessarily need to be super efficient with my work or super on top of things. I can kind of let some stuff slide or be a little bit more easy breezy about it. But when you are in that mode of having to oversee education and run your business, you have to take an objective look at what absolutely needs to get done and what needs to get done by me and what is actually moving the business forward.

So, if you’re like, “Well, I really love to blog.” Or you feel like you need to blog, I guess I should say, to get content out that way, but it takes you several hours every week, really get honest. Is that how you’re getting your clients? Are people finding you through SEO and then booking discovery calls that way? Or do you have enough content there that maybe if you’re on Instagram, you do some microblogging instead, or can you have a VA or somebody help you repurpose content? Can you audio message a really competent VA who can then write that blog post and edit it and everything for you and get it up, right?

So, it’s being very clear that, we all have this as entrepreneurs, there are always areas that you can shore up what you’re doing and actually what is driving business and what you also don’t need to be doing, or doesn’t need to be done by you.

So, I think that would be the first, most important, most crucial thing is really set some time aside where you’re not going to be distracted and just look at your business without judgment and look at the main areas. What are the marketing tasks that you’re doing? What is actually driving business to you? What services and things do you love and are making you the most money? Is it time to reevaluate and get rid of some that maybe aren’t serving you as well, but you felt the need to keep offering those services?

And then really look at how much available time you will have. So get out, there’s 1,000 free printables that go by the hour or even every 15 minutes that you can get online, print one of those suckers out, and what I always like to do with my clients is I always talk about big rocks first.

So, what are those non-negotiables? If you have a little one that you need to be right there with them while they are doing something, you need to block that out. Right? Get very clear. And this is for everything. From the time you wake up to the time you go to sleep for a whole week, I want you to put in what are the absolute non-negotiables and then look at how much time is truly left.

So, let’s say you’re used to working 40 hours a week, and now it’s looking closer to 20. Okay. Well then look at the paid work that you’ve already committed to, that you cannot drop the ball on, how much time is that going to take? And put that in and actually schedule it and then say, “Okay, so maybe that’s 10 hours.” And now you have 10 hours left. So, what do you have to do in those 10 hours to keep moving your business forward?

So, is that discovery calls? Is that showing up in your Instagram stories? Whatever it is that actually drives your business forward, put that in there and understand that some of it you’re probably going to have to put on hold or you’re going to have to outsource it. And then you will actually know, because a lot of times we just go on autopilot and we actually don’t know how long something is taking. How long has it taken you to write weekly email? How long is it taking you to edit a podcast or to send client notes? Just look at the actual data so you can take some of the emotion out of it and then the final step of this: So once you know your time, once you’ve scheduled everything in, is you have to communicate with the people in your household.

And this has been absolutely essential. My son just knows there are certain things. When I’m working on certain things, and at different ages, I’ve had to maybe give more reminders than I would have liked.

Rachel Brenke:
I do. Little ones.

Erika:
Yeah. Even now, I will say, before I’m recording a podcast or something, since everyone is home, I have to tell my husband, I have to tell our son, “Hey, from this time to this time, please keep the noise level down in the house.” Or whatever it is. And be respectful. I’m not going to be available.

And you just have to really set that expectation. And that can go all ways. So, if you have a kid that is very distractable or for our son, he’s a people watcher. So, even there’s just three of us in the house, if we’re lurking, he won’t be able to focus. And so for this upcoming year and stuff, because we moved in December, and so we’re like, “Okay, we’re going to probably get a tiny desk for his room so he’s not sitting at the kitchen table and doing his work.”

And so just really figure out what does each person need to thrive and what needs to be communicated in terms of boundaries and expectations? And then really hold your family to that. And I understand if you have a three year old or something, it’s going to be a little different than if you have a 13 year old. But it needs to be this much more, I would say, clear and almost professional level of how you would communicate with your family than I feel like most of us are used to doing. Because we’re like, “It’s family. We’re here together. And when we’re together, it’s fun family time.”

Well, no. Now there has to be very delineated chunks of the day and they need to understand. If you’re on client calls or if you need an hour to focus, I’ve seen different tricks. People putting, if they have like a closed door office, putting a sign up that has some directions. Like, “If you’re bleeding or whatever, let me know.”

Rachel Brenke:
911. Don’t call me.

Erika:
Yeah. Or if you just need a snack, prepping that stuff for them so that they’re ready. Getting everything ready ahead of time is really crucial. And just having things prepped, or if you don’t have a closed office space or it’s not safe for you to close the door, I used to know a woman who would wear this baseball hat, right?

So her kids knew if mom has the baseball hat on, it means don’t disturb her. I think it was hot pink or something, it was very obvious. And then the final, final component is to … So now people know, so let’s say you’re like, “All right, I have an hour. All the kids are set up. They’re doing whatever. And I need to focus full out for this hour.”

I like to do, and I used to do this a lot, when Jack was younger, power hours. So, this is where you prep before you start that hour. Just like you would set up snacks and coloring books and laptops and whatever for your kiddos, you are going to get everything you need so that way, right when your clock starts, you can just dive right into work and you’re not wasting any time outlining. And will this maybe sometimes have to be done on the evenings or weekends to really map it out? Yes. But it means that if you only have an hour to, let’s say, plan all of your social media content for the month, you are going to get right to it and you will be amazed how much you can actually produce in that hour when you are laser focused and you have everything you need to succeed.

Rachel Brenke:
Yeah. I love the way you presented the rocks. Because that’s actually in the very first episode, episode one of the Business Bites, that’s the foundation. I talked about more on a broader scale, not just your day to day time, but your whole goals and everything. And it all filters down. But one of the things that I’m looking at coming into this homeschool stuff is there’s a real reality, and by the way, I definitely recognize and understand. There’s a difference between me having to get homeschool curriculums, identify, completely prep and implement it versus, I don’t know what it’s going to look like for online teaching with parents facilitating during COVID. But I’m looking at the hours that the schools are putting on us and where the kids need to be online. And all I’m thinking is I’m going to be having to do more work in the evenings.

So, that’s already something that first I’m having to alter and do a lot of what you just talked about, take what are the rocks that need to be done? Obviously I can’t work during these times. How am I going to work in the evening? And the other side is my team and I right now, normally we do not exceed eight to 10 hours a day. Maybe eight. I have been working 12 to 15 hours for the last three weeks because it’s a lot of outsource type stuff. It’s a lot of I know I’m not going to have the hours, so I’m sitting there and creating the structure of improving of workflows, et cetera, so I can hand it off. So, there’s less need for my hands to be involved in when I’m going to be working in evenings.

My team may not necessarily be, but I will be. So, they’ll be able to work away in the day while I’m facilitating online school or doing homeschooling, whatever we decide to do. So for me, that’s the real world perspective of where I’m currently sitting. I do love all these tips, because these are things that I actually talk about in the podcast. But I just sat here and made a list while we’re talking of that I need to sit down and reevaluate all of this. And I think the biggest one that you really just put towards me and smacked me in the face with was the prep. Was prepping in the evening so when I sit down to work, I’m ready to roll.

Erika:
Yeah. And what’s interesting … So, because we had moved from New York to Michigan in December, Michigan has different options for high schoolers. And so my son is actually starting a program, it’s like a high school, college hybrid. So he will actually be doing online schooling that is … It’s like no longer controlled by me or by us or anything. So, even though I’ve had this experience and I’ve had to adapt and work around it, this year I’m also readapting and I’m also looking back and going, okay, well, yes, he’s a teenager and yes, he’s more independent, but also this is different. It’ll be the first time in a long time that he’s had proper homework that has to actually be done by a certain date and is getting graded.

It’s a whole different thing. And so even for me, I’m like, “Okay, I need to revisit my own tips and tricks and really get clear, similarly in my own business, of what are the hours that I really want to be working?” And I’m going to have to make sure he’s up, and awake, and does he have what he needs and is he on the ball?

I’m going to have to be at the mercy of if he needs help with homework in an evening that’s due the next day, well, me or his dad, we are going to have to help him with that. And I can’t just be like, “Oh, well, if I didn’t get to that one thing for my work during the day, I’ll just squeeze it in at night.” No. I have to tighten up my stuff as well, so that I have more availability for him.

And that prep is huge because also, like you said, you might have to be doing more work at night and if your brain isn’t as fresh and you haven’t prepped, it could mean that something that during the day would take you one hour now suddenly at night takes you two hours.

So, just like we would for anything, just like if your kids were going to school. Maybe on Sundays, you’re like, “Okay, let’s lay out the outfits for the week. Let’s make sure you have snacks for your lunches.” Same thing. As much as you can utilize your open spaces to prep for what you know is going happen, even if you’re not happy with what you know has to happen. But the more that you can set your future self up for success, the less you’re going to end up hating just everything in your life this upcoming year.

Rachel Brenke:
And that’s what I’m concerned about, is just the heightened stress. So, I’ve really been trying to tell myself in 2020, because it’s many year for everyone, but especially here. And I’ve been just saying, “Give yourself grace.” The business is not going to crumble if I don’t get that podcast up on Tuesday, it gets out on Wednesday. You know what I mean? It’s those sorts of things. And I also, taking a step back. We’re in the middle of a pandemic, these kids that are looking to us to see how we respond and I want them to also know to have grace.

Obviously it’s a balance of, we have structure, we want to stick to it. But at the same time, if we don’t get through everything and we still made a valiant effort, that’s okay. And so for me, and I’m more speaking to myself, my own little soundbite for myself that I should probably play whenever I get stressed out, but they’re looking to see how I handle in response to this online schooling and all of that.

And so I would just encourage everyone, especially entrepreneurs, because we have such high standards for ourselves and we definitely want to push and tackle and succeed with it all. It doesn’t have to be perfect. I think as long as we all get out of this unscathed, they learn a little bit, it will be fine.

Erika:
Yeah. And that’s such a good point. And I will say for anyone who is under any assumption that I am a down to the minute, every 15 minute planner and worker, I am not. I love like lazy open stretches of time. I love to be unhurried. I’m all about like easy, supportive workflows and I’m not super rigorous. I’ve never been super rigorous with my son about … He has to get his work done and he has to do it well. But there were never any like critical deadlines. If he was still finishing stuff in July, it didn’t really matter. So I am not a super stern taskmaster by any means. So, I don’t want anyone to be like, “Oh my gosh, if that’s not my nature, I’m already going to fail.”

No. It’s like once you know what the big rocks are and what is truly going to get you the most bang for your time buck in your business, it’s okay to give yourself permission to let stuff go. And also, I will say too, that because of homeschooling and seeing friends of mine who have kids who are now in college and thriving and everything, and we are lazy homeschool moms, right? We are not tiger moms by any means. And our kids have thrived. Many have gone back to school, many have graduated homeschool and gone on to college and done really well.

And truly what I’ve seen is regular schools demands so much of our kids and it leads parents to have this tremendous anxiety that if they aren’t doing everything at the exact same pace as their peers, that they will grow up and be failures as adults. And honestly, that’s just not true.

Kids are super resilient. When kids are really ready to learn something and they’re excited about learning it, they can learn it so fast. Even if you think about yourself as an adult, if there is something that you’ve wanted to learn for your business, you get excited. You’re like, “I’m ready. I’m going to dive in. I’m going to learn this thing.” And you can learn something in a few weeks because you’re pumped about it. But if you had to go learn something that just felt like a huge drag, it might take you a really long time and it would feel frustrating. So, kids, when they have space to shine and really lean into their own strengths and have some room to explore, they actually really thrive. That’s what I’ve learned.

And there was a lot of nervousness for many years. I was like, “I’m failing my kid. He’s not going to be able to like reacclimate to the real world.” And just all of these thoughts. And now that he’s older, I’m like, “That’s 100% not true.” We are just way too hard on ourselves and our kids in like traditional school settings and the reality is, just like we know in entrepreneurship, the reason that you have a VA or other people you outsource to, we all have our own strengths. We are not meant to be perfect in everything. That is why there is diversity, right? We each have different things we’re good at and when we bring those together, that is when amazing things happen.

But you aren’t meant to be a great lawyer and a great entrepreneur and also a great carpenter, you know?

Rachel Brenke:
I don’t even cook.

Erika:
[inaudible 00:31:45] Somehow I feel like school makes us feel like every kid has to be phenomenal at every subject, at every moment, at every … And it’s like, no. Just trust that just like you have your strengths, your kids have theirs. And that if this year they just have more time to run around and play outside and doodle and make silly videos, that is actually learning. Even baking cookies. That is learning. It counts. It’s all good. And this could just be a year where, I don’t know, they’re learning like life skills, right? Life skills are important too.

Rachel Brenke:
100%. Well, I think that actually entrepreneurs those are probably going to be set up to be the most successful in this. So long as you guys can take Erika’s tips here in all the other time management stuff that we talk about on the podcast and implement it. We are by nature, able to look at a situation and brainstorm outside the regular box. Outside of the regular context of sitting in a school classroom.

It’s funny. One of my younger boys today tripped and skinned his elbow. And I was like, “Well, I’m going to take this time to teach them a little biology.” And I was explaining how when you put pressure on the elbow and it comes to clot and all of this and my older kids were just laughing at me. They’re like, “Oh, are you a biology teacher now?” And I was like, “you know what? Yes, I am, welcome to school because that’s what it’s going to be.”

Erika:
Yeah, welcome to my classroom.

Rachel Brenke:
I felt a little bit like Mrs. Frizzle off of … What is the school bus?

Erika:
Oh, yeah that Magic School Bus. Yeah, totally. And I think there’s so much … Like my son, he knows how to cook a few things for himself. He knows how to do his own laundry now. He knows how to clean the bathrooms. There are things that he can do. He goes grocery shopping. Maybe not now during COVID, but he’s seen how adults actually live and adult and those really valuable skills. If you’re sitting there paying bills or something or making a dentist appointment, bring your kid over, show them what you’re doing. Because they’re going to need those skills one day.

Rachel Brenke:
Oh, hey, I’m about to get my oldest, who turns 15 next week, I’m going to get them to start editing the podcast. He wants to earn money. Can’t go outside the house right now because of COVID and I need a podcast editor. So, here we go.

Erika:
Yeah. That’s really amazing that you’re doing that. Because maybe he doesn’t want to do that forever, but if he did that as a part time job, you can make good dang money doing podcast editing.

Rachel Brenke:
Well, it’s one of those things. Kids are all into YouTube and it’s so funny. They’re like, “Do you know YouTube?” I’m like, “I’m on YouTube. You kids just haven’t seen me there.” But it’s foundational things that I feel like he can learn. If end result is he wants to get into like digital marketing and media stuff, start with learning how to edit and process.

And so I encourage all of y’all listening, we’re going to have to fit within these structures of this online schooling, but get the information once the schools finally get it out, apply Erika’s tips here, but also see how you can put your own entrepreneurial, creative spin on it so that you’re able to maybe accomplish stuff in your business and give these real life skills that they could carry forward that they’re not going to get otherwise. So Erika, this has been wonderful. Do you have any last tips, words of wisdom to leave with all of those heading into this unknown?

Erika:
Yeah, I would say, kind of like you said earlier, give yourself grace. I feel like instead of the panic that ensues when you suddenly have more responsibility and less time, use it as an opportunity to really refine your business and refine even what are your household values and how do you want to work together as a team?

In our household, we always say we’re a team. So how can you foster that energy of, “These are our household values. We are coming together to help each other as a team. This is what that looks like.” And what are those things in my business that actually matter and what can I finally give myself permission to either completely eliminate or delegate this year?

Rachel Brenke:
Definitely. Well, I love it. Erika, thank you so much. We’re going to have you come back on in the future to talk about selling stuff as well. But if you guys all want to check out all of her wonderful resources, don’t forget the episode is number 129. So the show notes are going to be Rachelbrenke.com/epi129. We’ll have the link to her No Sleaze Selling free stuff. You can check out her sales system there, as well as all of her business strategy and coaching services.

And as always, please jump into the Facebook group. We’re going to have a thread dedicated just to this episode. I would love to keep that one going in the coming months. People can share tips and tricks of how you’re doing with all this homeschooling stuff or just being able to learn from others. So, I’ll see you all there and I’ll catch you next week.